Which Blogging Archetype Are You?

If one more blogger tells me that my posts are long and makes it sound like that’s a problem, I might just… listen to them and cater to their need for short posts?

No. I don’t blog for others, I blog for myself.

Here’s a tip – Don’t read it if the length (or whatever else about it) is a problem for you, but if you really want to force yourself to read it, learn to skim-read long posts until something interesting catches your eye and makes you want to dive in the deep end and perhaps read all of it.

I love writing posts the way I do it, I figure out personal puzzles as I scribble and re-read my scribbles.

I also love reading the long posts of others.

I’m one of those people who prefers long reads because there’s usually more depth to them, you can see the mileage a person took in thought, in emotion, in life – they’re like a satisfying deep conversation.

I’m also a reading addict and have devoured books since I learned to read. Having dyslexia made me get creative about how I read when I was experiencing difficulty.

I don’t always read long posts from start to finish, I may bookmark and read the rest later, or jump around reading a paragraph here and another one there, sometimes I start from the end and scroll up to the beginning.

The important thing is to enjoy what you’re doing and not make a chore for yourself of it – if it’s a chore it’ll bore.

Turning this long read post into a quickie: If you’re here for the – Which Blogging Archetype Are You? – question and don’t want to wade through my blah blah to get to it, skip to the image with a circular rainbow of colours.

Fun Fact: There’s also a bonus challenge which invites one and all to participate in figuring out a life problem, brought to you by a very interesting blog and blogger-member of that blog – skip down to the screen shot with – Brain-storming 2 – as its title. OR go here instead – Brain-Storming 2 by Betul Erbasi on Pointless Overthinking

I used to worry about the length of my posts.

I’m not exactly sure when I started worrying about that – especially considering that the most popular posts, mainly with non-bloggers (most of the views and visits my blog gets aren’t from bloggers), on my blog are long reads.

I even tried writing shorter posts. At one point I decided to write my usual long style of post and then create a short version of it which I published after the long post version. I think I only did that once.

Then, recently, I finally figured that puzzle out and the issue is no longer an issue for me – that doesn’t mean I won’t get pissed off if someone pokes me there. It’s not a worried taking it personally wanting to change myself to suit others pissed off now. It’s a just don’t read it if you find it too long for you kind of pissed off.

Whenever I resolve a personal problem, life may test me to see if it’s really resolved or if I’m just fooling myself and it’s not resolved at all, it’s just buried under denial.

I used to hate those tests, now I mostly love them. I’m finally getting the hang of my natal Saturn square Sun which the issue of my posts being too long for others falls under.

Saturn square Sun is about never being good enough, having the impression that you’re always doing it wrong, getting constantly criticised and getting your ego crushed repeatedly.

My natal Sun is in the Zodiac house of Leo and creativity. Saturn is the hard taskmaster, the disciplinarian, the tester of mettle, and it’s in one of the Zodiac houses which represents other people and the values of others. Having my creations judged by others in a way which makes me feel inadequate, a failure, useless, worthless is par for the course with this aspect and its placements.

I do have another planetary aspect getting involved in that Saturn square Sun dynamic – natal Pluto in the Zodiac house of Aries and the experience of being me-me-me. Pluto trines my Sun, and whenever Saturn beats up my Sun, and my creative self is down for the count, knocked out and possibly on the verge of death… Pluto steps in. Pluto teaches you how to rise up from the ashes of you, renewed, transformed – when in hell keep going and going until you find your way out, the experience will change you… for the better?

Also, at the moment transiting Pluto and Saturn are involved with the natal aspect action, since I’m a Capricorn Sun and they’re in the sign on either side of my Sun sandwiching it. So it’s a good time for me to sort myself out and get over old issues – and see the value of having them, the experience of them.

I’m mentioning astrology partly because there are 12 Zodiac signs and there are 12 Archetypes, and the two 12’s overlap. You can use the Archetypes to understand the Zodiac and vice versa.

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12 Archetypes worksheet from How To Create Clear, Consistent Content with Brand Archetypes by Clay Ostrom of Map & Fire

You are now here -> Which Blogging Archetype Are You?

I haven’t checked to see if anyone else out there has done this, they probably have and if you’re one of those who have or know of someone who has, please pop a link to your/their version of this in the comments on this post. The more the merrier!

For me this started with a comment from Mel of Crushed Caramel (she’s lovely, if you don’t know her blog please check it out, it’s all about love) on my previous post, and something she said sparked inspiration, and this is what I said in my reply:

“It’s intriguing to observe who we gravitate towards, especially once you’re a blogger in the blogging community.

The blogging community is a bit like a world with countries made of archetypes, eg. Jesters who do humour, Sages who dole out wisdom, Caregivers who care about everything and everyone, Outlaws who tend to avoid everyone else and do their own thing, Creators who share their artistic creations, Explorers who travel in search of treasures to collect, etc.

Each archetype country has a different culture of blogging, with a different belief system of blogging, and different rules, etiquette, customs and versions of the reality of blogging.

Do we gravitate towards the blogging archetype country which reflects us, which suits our own archetype or at least the one which we have chosen for our blog?

For instance, your blogging archetype I’d say is predominantly that of Lover, since you write about love and love everything and everyone πŸ˜€ So do you gravitate towards other bloggers who are Lovers – lovers of love, of food, of travel, of life?

I would say that the deadly serious bloggers who engender feelings of terror, inferiority and intimidation in their readers/followers may be of the Ruler archetype, and many rulers end up trying to dominate, control and dictate. Those feelings you got from them are most likely what they’re feeling underneath their facade.

This is a fun way of looking at blogging… I may do a post about it, thank you for inspiring it!

Which blogging archetype do you think you are?

Which archetype suits your blog, your blogging style?

Which blogging archetype do you gravitate towards in others?

There are several ways to approach answering the – Which Blogging Archetype Are You? – question.

You can check out the Archetypes in the image above and pick the one which suits you/your blog.

You can create your own archetype.

You can expand and improve the idea.

You can answer in the comments on this post or write your own post and pingback and/or put a link to your post in the comments.

You can do all of the above or none of the above.

Have fun and share it with me please, pretty please with cherry on top!

That’s it for that bit.

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On to the second challenge:

Brain-Storming 2 – the potential artist dilemma by Betul Erbasi on Pointless Overthinking

Last night or maybe this morning I “Liked” Betul Erbasi’s latest Brain-Storming challenge:

Here’s the link again – Brain-Storming 2 – the potential artist dilemma by Betul Erbasi on Pointless Overthinking

And I returned to it to check out the answers people had given to her question-puzzle-problem shortly after I’d replied to Mel and was thinking about blogging archetypes and all the ways that idea could go…

I’m a diagonal thinker and INTP with Mercury in Aquarius – all of those love love love going off on tangents, thought journeys, connecting dots like stars in the sky to create thought-constellations.

There is no such thing as pointless overthinking…

Except there is, there’s a blog with that name and I’m really loving the new series on it written and curated by Betul Erbasi. I love the way she interacts with those who participate and comment. She is an inspiration!

I participated in the first Brain-storming session: Brain-Storming – the parent’s dilemma by Betul Erbasi on Pointless Overthinking

But I didn’t participate in the second. Partly because it hits close to home and my answer would be a complicated and complex mess which might crush someone’s dreams.

My father was a professional artist.

He lived the Creator archetype.

He went against his family to become an artist – his mother never got over the fact that he didn’t become a bus driver which was a respectable job even though she enjoyed the benefits his artistry gave her. Once he became successful, she never had to worry about money, having a roof over her head or food on the table ever again.

He also earned money as a teenager sketching American soldiers stationed in Rome during WWII… which allowed him to see that he could pursue art and make a living from it. That money helped keep his mother and siblings clothed, fed with a roof over their head.

His teacher at school encouraged him to pursuit art, go to art school, after she noticed his sketches on his schoolwork.

He went to art school, then worked as a graphic artist – his early career consisted of creating posters for films, advertising and public events.

He worked his butt off throughout his career – he worked 24/7/365, never took holidays without them having some work element in them, from the moment he woke up until late at night he was drawing, painting, sculpting, collaging, taking photographs, visiting museums, reading up on art and artists, collecting inspiration, making contacts, socialising with other artists and collectors, people in the art business…

The art business is brutal and will eat you up alive. I’ve worked on the business side of the art world. I eventually burned out from the stress, escaped to never return and couldn’t look at art or hear the word “artist” for a long time afterwards without feeling rage, panic, and experiencing unpleasant flashbacks.

I was born a long time after my father became successful due to his hard work and graft. My birth coincided with my father’s growing dissatisfaction, disillusionment and despair turned to depression with the world of art.

As I grew up I heard on repeat about all of the problems an artist faces to become successful, to make money from their work, to make enough money to live off their work.

There were several “traumatic” events for an artist which sent my father spiraling down into self-destruction and other versions of personal hell.

Anyone who thinks pursuing your art dream doesn’t come with all those things which a regular job comes with – hard work, grueling hours, little reward for all the effort you put into it, unhappiness, frustration, having to put up with difficult people making demands of you which tear at your heart and soul, making you want to abandon all for something more fun, easier, etc – is in for a shock.

I’d recommend that they watch the film – Velvet Buzzsaw (2019) – it’s a fictional art world horror story, but the real art world, especially the business side, can be a horror story for artists whether they survive the cutthroat competition to make it or not.

There is an up-side – it’s easier to pursue art nowadays because of the internet, you can set up your own shop, gallery, do it all from home and keep the costs down, you can be your own agent, do your own PR, deal directly with your collectors, network with other artists like you who are doing the same thing.

I really love what Joseph Gordon Levitt did with HitRecord (wikilink)

My father would have loved the freedom the internet offers artists.

But if you want to pursue the creative life you’re still going to have to work your butt off to make it. Artwork is created by art + work… a lot of work.

When people used to ask my father how long it had taken him to paint a single painting, he’d always answer with the amount of years he’d been working as an artist – ie. 35 years, 50 years.

And you’re going to have to learn to deal with criticism, a lot of criticism of the not constructive kind, often from total strangers who think they can critique your work because you’ve made it open and available to the public.

Basically you need to gird your loins to have a Saturn square Sun never good enough with a dose of Pluto destruction through creation and creation through destruction experience.

As for happiness… yes, I’m going to once again share my favourite cartoon from a very talented artist who works their butt off:

by Zen Pencils

That’s it…

Over to you!

26 comments

  1. Hello, again, hello

    Love the Zen Pencils site! Oh and the Sufi parables from before. You’ve been productive and I’ve been busy and I feel like we’re two ships that pass in the night…πŸ˜‰

    I like the image of the thought constellations… that’s a journey our natals travel together. I dont know how one could do the tangents in short form. You did a kind of abbreviated, bullet point thingy in a recent post, I remember and I followed a lot of it but not all of course cuz I’m not you. (Dont say “who would want to be?”) I adore your long form!

    Now, the questions:
    Which blogging archetype do you think you are?

    I think I’m mostly a Jester with a little bit of all the others except Outlaw and Ruler. I’m curious how you see me?

    Which archetype suits your blog, your blogging style?

    Same answer. My blog is me.

    Which blogging archetype do you gravitate towards in others?

    Huh…same answer, except I’d add Outlaw. Ruler seems too Narci and fake. No, thank you to that.

    I read through the comments to the Dilemma question and I pretty much agree with most of the commenters. My thoughts are ‘If you’re asking the question, you need to do art part time until it pays full time, because if art was your all-consuming passion, you COULDN’T do anything else’s. Maybe I have a romantic view of the starving artist, but I believe that Art (with a capital A) comes from the heart and the soul/spirit/thingy and not the headspace. The headspace is in charge of keeping the body functioning with food, roof etc. Blah, blah, blah…you know what I mean.

    I was just tapping away here on my phone thinking I would probably be a whole lot wordier if I could type instead of tap. Hmmmmm….

    Off to the next post. Cue Arnold…

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    • Hey hey we’re the monkees πŸ˜€

      I don’t always follow myself and my own zip zap zoinking around in posts, I just go with it and hang on for the sheer fun of the ride or just for dear life. Every now and then I read old posts on my blog and sometimes I just… nope out of there, wtf was I on!?! I know I wasn’t on anything other than brain sparks. Other times I’m like… Oh, this is good, really easy to read and I wonder if I’ll ever write like that again? πŸ˜‰

      So… you want doctor Ursula to diagnose your blog archetype, do ya? I agree with you about Jester. You play the fool but you’re not a fool at all, you do the whole Murphy’s and broken dancing toe, laughing so as not to cry and scream in pain, which is part of the essence of a Jester – very very deeply clever are Jesters. Heyoka! The sacred clown πŸ™‚

      You blog isn’t just about your posts, a big part of your blogging style is in comments. You comments are more Caregiver and Sage archetypes. I come across your comments on other blogger’s posts and I’ve seen you show sharp insight buffered by caring and compassion. A couple of times you’ve sliced through a Rory post to the heart of the matter and he does his buffering thing because he likes to be seen yet unseen and gets really uncomfortable when you’ve seen what he thinks is hidden. You always back off and soothe.

      I get the impression from comments on this post that what I said in my comment to Mel about the Ruler archetype may have put people off of it, biased them – it’s a good archetype and I probably should have edited that bit out.

      I agree, those who commented on the artist’s dilemma nailed it, and so did you in what you said here about it. There’s a reason why real artists who pursue art as their career are often assholes, tortured souls, etc. Turning art into a career is not a fluffy experience like the dream of being an artist is.

      Thank you, Angie for… being Angie!

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      • Thank you doctor Ursula 😘
        Things like the What Blogging Archetype Are You, like any kind of test or label thingy are better if you can compare your view of yourself with how others see you. I appreciate you answering and your answer. It’s funny, I actually do more writing in comments tha posts, even did a post about it, but I never really considered that part of my blogging. When I think about MY blogging it’s the King Ben’s Grandma page. So weird…
        The thing with the Ruler for me is more about word association. All of those words yell BAD BAD BAD at me. I know they’re just words and can be used for good, I KNOW that, but they still make me cringe.

        I liked your opening greetingπŸ˜‚ So happy you caught that. Just a weird moment where associations ping pong ping. I just go with it. It’s more fun. I cool with monkeys as long as they dont fly, either your way or Oz way…scary!

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        • When I first started blogging on WordPress, I didn’t understand the Comments part of blogging. I’d popped my blogging cherry on tumblr, and tumblr was different from WordPress when it came to interaction/commenting.

          Comments are a part of the post they’re on.

          When you comment on a post, you’re adding content to the content of the post. When the post writer replies to the comments on their posts, they’re also adding more content to the content of their post.

          I learned that from those who commented on my posts and shared with me the fact that they often read my posts for the comments and my replies to those comments rather than the post itself.

          There also used to be this person who kept referring to their comments on my posts as “posts” and they saw their commenting as blogging with me on my blog. They viewed themselves as being a co-blogger on my blog. It annoyed me, and because it did it made me hmmm… about it, and I realised that they had a good point.

          Many bloggers think that the comment section is separate from their post.

          That’s how I used to see it, even though long before I started blogging I used to enjoy reading the comments on blog posts because I saw them as adding content to the post itself, but I didn’t think about it consciously until after I started blogging and it took a while to get there.

          Because not all bloggers view comments as part of the continued flow of the post – the conversation started in the post itself by the writer continues in the comments and becomes a dialogue rather than a monologue – it can make commenting on a blog post complex, especially if you’re me and you want to chat about what was in the post but the post writer just wants praise, simple feedback and not a conversation, more in depth feedback.

          As I’m writing this reply, I’m thinking – I should turn this into a post πŸ˜‰

          Melanie of Sparks sometimes introduces her posts as a comment she wanted to leave on someone’s blog post but she had so much to say that she decided to turn it into a post on her blog instead.

          So, your comments on other bloggers’ posts are part of your blogging, they’re posts in a way, they’re just posts on someone else’s blog which become part of their post.

          I learn a lot about bloggers from their commenting style on other bloggers’ posts and on their own posts – bloggers who don’t reply to comments… or who only reply to a select few… always interesting to hmmm… about that πŸ™‚

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  2. I don’t think about what type of blogger I am. I write because that’s what I do. It’s what I’ve always done since as long as I can remember. I also love photography and take lots of photos with a regular camera, not my phone (well, sometimes my phone when something inspires me to photograph it and my camera isn’t handy). I have no idea what I’m doing with photography, I just see something that looks like a picture so I snap.

    To sum it up, I blog because I write and I share my photos on the blog.

    BTW, I only started blogging because I was told I needed a platform as an author. I thought I’d hate it, but turned out, I love it!

    The cartoon in the second half of this post reminded me of a movie that I really loved. Since you’re a movie buff, you may have seen it, but if not, I recommend it. “Hector and the Search for Happiness.” πŸ™‚

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    • Thank you for sharing, Lori πŸ™‚

      Come on, you’re the Creator archetype!!! You’re an author, and you created your blog as a platform for your verbal artwork as an author, and because you’re the Creator archetype you went – hey I can do creative stuff with this blog, it can be so much more… I have so much more to create and share, this is fun!

      Yup, I’ve seen Hector and the Search for Happiness. It was an intriguing film, don’t recall much about it except for the test thing in the lab and that I enjoyed it. I’m not a fan of Simon Pegg in his post-Spaced (UK TV series which is just brilliant) career. So I kind of grudgingly watch films with him in it… I can be an ass πŸ˜‰ … my fav film of his is Man Up ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3064298/ ) with the superb Lake Bell.

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      • Ahh, yes, creator archetype. Okay, I’ll take it. πŸ‘

        I can understand grudgingly watching films with people you really aren’t a fan of. I have a few of those. I loved the “Hector” movie because I liked the message about happiness. All the things that happened to him were sort of like “The Odyssey,” except it was reality.

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  3. I’ve weighed in before on the length of your posts – I like your posts and if I’m running out of time I just come back. I agree – just write what you want to write. πŸ™‚

    I actually did leave my job to learn flying and yes, it was scary, but what I learned from that was a lot of other stuff in addition to flying. πŸ™‚ I also have quit one job, moved to take on another and have subsequently moved for work again as you may remember. All very scary and worrisome at the time but am in a good work situation now. Don’t know what archetype that would be – metamorphosis? πŸ™‚

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    • Thank you, Lynette πŸ™‚

      I know my posts are long, and I do understand and appreciate that sometimes people would like to read them but it’s just too many words going on and on, and they have only so much time available in a busy and varied life for post reading, lots of other posts by other bloggers they follow to read, and their own posts to write and re-read if they’re a blogger.

      I do take on board what others would like, and keep it in my “to be considered” file in my mind. I review what’s in that file as I go around in one of my personal puzzle loops. If I’m still reacting strongly to the feedback in some way, even if it’s in a different way, then I’m not quite ready yet, I’m still processing.

      Getting pissed off at something someone said is a source of inspiration for me – I have Mars in Scorpio in the house of “writing” πŸ˜‰

      I’m not ready yet to write shorter posts. At the moment I’m in write as I please mode. I might give it a go though just to test myself.

      Hmmm… I would say that you as a blogger, considering the metamorphosis angle – what you did and do now on your blog, you’re the Hero archetype, with Sage archetype too.

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  4. Length of the post should not be an issue for anyone. Don’t read if you don’t have time. Read later. I have no idea what sort of blogger I am. I guess I am a bit of all, maybe not the ruler type but others!

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  5. I enjoy reading your long posts and yes, it’s more meaty. For a while, I’ve been trying to get pass a certain count of words in my posts but still unsuccessful. Recently I started a post, adding parts and paragraphs over 4-5 days. Then when it is finally completed, the tone of the post also changed. Thank you for sharing your blogging experience!

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    • πŸ˜€ btw, you mentioned previously that peekaboo was done in a similar style like yours, sadly, it seems to be a one-off occasion. I remember a surge of energy then to get something off my chest which I didn’t feel in the new post… how can I replenish that?

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      • You’re in an experimental phase of blogging, your writing voice wants to try different things out to find its individual style, so let it explore and find itself in exploration πŸ™‚

        Since I know you’re into astrology, it’s quite interesting to look at the astro of the moment to see how it is reflected in your writing of the moment. Especially transits aspecting natal placements, particularly the natal placements which connect with creativity and writing. For instance check out whether there’s something transiting your 3rd house, or hitting Mercury either directly or indirectly – indirectly would be if a transit is aspecting a natal planet which aspects your natal Mercury.

        I’ve noticed that I became more “selfish” in my writing once transiting Chiron changed signs – the change of sign of Chiron meant that it went from being conjunct natal Chiron in Pisces to being conjunct natal North node in Aries, so the focus shifted. NN in Aries is about being more “selfish” in self expression. And Chiron in Aries is about realising that to “heal the world” you have to start with the self. I also have a whole Uranus thing going on by transit and natal, so I’m all over the place zip zap zoink πŸ˜‰

        Don’t worry about repeating what you did… go with the flow of you and see where you take you, what replenishes changes, especially for a Pisces sun πŸ˜€

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    • Thank you very much, Rev πŸ™‚

      That’s one of the interesting things about writing posts, you often start with an idea of how it is going to be and going to go, but as you write, the more you write, the idea evolves and may become something else entirely.

      I usually set the category and tags for the post before I start writing it, and when I reach the end of it the categories and tags may be wrong for the post I ended up writing. For instance the other day I categorised a post as “Astrology” because I thought that was going to be the way I went with it, but I forgot that’s what I was planning to do as I wrote it, got into the flow of it, and it ended up with nothing astrological in it.

      It’s a bit like planting a seed, when you plant it you have an idea of what that seed is going to grow into, you have a vision/an ideal for it, but that seed also has an idea of what it will grow into, it has a vision/an ideal for itself. All ideas are alive, have a life of their own. Then there’s the earth the seed is planted in, that earth has influence over what will happen to the seed, the nutrients in it, the chemical structure of it, the creatures who live in it, etc. We’re influenced by the environment around us when we write even if we’re not conscious of it as we write because we’re caught up in our activity. Once the seed becomes a seedling and pushes its way up and through the earth to the world outside… as our idea grows while writing… there’s weather = emotions, there’s Sun/sunlight = ego? higher self? all-seeing eye? How we perceive the plant which the seed is shaping into… we thought it was going to be a bush but instead it’s a tree, we thought it would be a rose but instead it’s a… hmmm… what is it?

      I don’t think I’ve ever written a post over the course of several days. Although I have a vague memory of doing that when I first started blogging… yes, I used to do that. Maybe I should try doing it again. If I was writing more to be read by others than for myself that would be the better way to write? Hmmm… you got me thinking… πŸ˜‰

      It’s fun to experiment and see what happens. I’m going to pop over and read your post! I enjoy reading your posts too πŸ™‚

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